A VERY INTERESTING EXCHANGE OF EMAILS REGARDING REVELATION 18:4

NERO WOLF

ARCHIE GOODWIN

Many have written me over the years for a picture; I have thought it best not to provide one given the number of people who are on the "outlook" for me and who do not wish me well; but you can get some sense as to how I look and the somewhat harsh manner with which I conduct myself by reading one of Rex Stout's books about Nero Wolf - the main difference being I am much older (70 years) than Wolf, have a beard, and am graced with a wonderful wife of fifty years. Like Wolf, I have many Archie Goodwins who, I must say, like Archie do most of the work and deserve most of the credit.

You will note that I don't look much like I looked forty years ago when I was in Vietnam (please see "About S.R. Shearer"); but again Wolf didn't much look like the svelte person he was when he was in Montenegro years before moving to New York in the 1930s. Time has a way of altering us all.

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The exchange was initiated by the following email to the ministry by a dear sister that I shall refer to as "D:"

Hi there,

Bless the Lord! RE: America & Babylon...I get it. God has shown me since 2003, although I realize many others have known for much longer than that. I'm grateful to know this truth. Here's a question for you; if people know that America is Babylon, why are they moving to different hiding places here in America? Just wondering. I'm willing but so far I haven't heard any specific direction from the Holy Spirit as yet. Also, it may have to do w/ my family...He's working. Anyway, I have to know from the Lord God myself. I suppose you live outside of America.

Thanks, "D"

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I was out of town, so Jack replied to her as follows:

Dear "D,"

Steve is out of town right now.

I advise you to read his article, "Our Failure in Canada."

God bless you,

Jack,

Antipas

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"D" wrote back:

Hi Jack,

I do remember many yrs. ago that Steve was planning to move to Canada & then what happened when he got there & for awhile afterwards. I didn't feel comfortable at that time about moving & I don't feel comfortable about moving at this time in my life either. I believe that God speaks to individuals & many people do not hear Him b/c they don't belong to Him or are not interested or they're too busy, etc. But I do know the Lord's voice & His faithfulness to me so I don't doubt that if He wants me to move at some point in time, He will make that clear & make a way.

I get it that America is the nation of Babylon & that NYC is the Babylon city. I get it that we're the only nation that is across from Russia & the Arab block nations that could attack us, whereas, Iraq is across from the ocean--could not be Babylon. Israel also could not be Babylon as it is across from the ocean. I know we are a mingled people as the bible says about Babylon & also that the UN is the beast. At the same time, I believe that Babylon is a system which pervades the whole world.

I do endeavor to be aware & I can see the Lord increasing my understanding of what goes on behind the scenes (for me, since 2003) however, I have to also be careful not to be distracted from the truth of the beauty & greatness & sovereignty of the Lord. I think there will always be this debate, even though I see that people were told to leave or they fled in bible days & in the history of wars in later years. So we shall see.

I appreciate Steve's other writings, yet no one can "tell" others what to do unless they hear it from the Lord. Here's how people get into trouble....not listening to the Lord & obeying Him, whether to stay or go in any situation OR listening to someone who tells them what to do without searching it out or seeking the Lord for the answer for themselves. I will trust the witness within b/c He's never wrong. When I'm wrong, that means I missed the witness within.

"D"

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By the time the ministry received her second email, I had returned and responded by writing our most recent "BANNER" article, "A Renewed Effort to Emigrate out of Babylon."

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"D" responded with the following stinging email:

Attention Steve:

I have read your update & would like to give an answer b/c you posted 2 of my quotes from an email I sent to you in your update. PLEASE POST THIS EMAIL SO THAT OTHERS MAY SEE MY REPLY.

So first of all where is your understanding re: me or anyone else who hasn't moved when you yourself have lived here in America for many years after you found the verse in Rev. 18:4 & even after you returned from Canada.As I write you are still here in America. I believe that the Rhema word of the Lord must be spoken to each one &/or also that ppl [people] must be moved by the Spirit of God in HIS TIMING.

You misquoted Rev. 18:4 b/c you said that it said, SIN, when it clearly says PLAGUES which means plague, stripe, wound. It does not say sin. Yes, we can partake of others' sins IF we are in agreement w/ them or we are cowards or in fear, etc. But the point here is that you misquoted scripture!

And just to clarify something here, I was NOT in the least bit angry when I wrote my email to you nor was I implying that your information re: moving out of Babylon came out of your own "fevered imagination," " YOUR WORDS. Here's another quote of yours: I will not allow Christians to twist the Scriptures in such a way that they feel they have an "out" with regard to Revelation 18:4.But that is exactly what you did when you replaced the word plagues, w/ sin & besides that you twisted my words & presented me wrongly to others.

NOWHERE in my email did I imply or say that I had FEELINGS! I wrote about the WITNESS WITHIN, NOT FEELINGS re: my future actions of moving or not moving.

And for sure I am no longer a part of the Apostate Church, for many years, thanks only be to the Living God! And as well, He, in His faithfulness, continues to expose all manner of darkness re: this evil, wicked world.

As well, I do not dismiss the ability of Babylon to corrupt--we are all in spiritual warfare on a daily basis. We have all been influenced by the corruption of the world wherever ones lives. We are to fight against the wiles of the devil each new day!

To not leave at this particular time is NOT a matter of DISOBEDIENCE but rather a waiting on God for His Timing & His ways. If your statement re: DISOBEDIENCE IS TRUE, THEN YOU SIR, according to your writing, ARE AS GUILTY AS ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS NOT LEFT. God's timing is not yours, or mine or anyone else's!

Your writing re: the EXCUSES was taken totally OUT OF CONTEXT! Jesus was talking about following Him & being His disciple,as you stated, but it was NOT about the excusesconcerning the leaving Babylon!

Just to clarify, not that you directed this to me, but it was on your website--B/C I disagree w/ your attitude DOES NOT MEAN I WILL BLAME YOU, NEITHER DOES IT EVER MEAN I WILL BLAME THE LIVING GOD FOR ANYTHING THAT HE HAS SAID OR INSPIRED TO BE WRITTEN FOR MANKIND.

The point for each one of us is to be close enough to the Lord so that we recognize His voice & directions whether to physically leave or not b/c He is Sovereign & He interweaves all things together for His will to be executed.

The Lord God & time will tell--this issue is important but it should not be a distraction which causes anyone to do anything else but to seek the Lord & wait on Him for His direction.

In Christ, "D"

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I responded to "D" with the following email:

Dear "D:"

First of all, there was no intention to slam you personally — that is why your name was omitted.

Secondly, I have written over and over again that we are in an 'IN-BETWEEN" TIME" — and that there is time for people to PREPARE to leave. Eventually, that time will run out, but it has not yet.

Third, I quoted Revelation 18:4 correctly!! The verse reads: "... Come out of her [meaning Babylon], my people, that ye be not partakers of her SINS, and that ye receive not of her PLAGUES [meaning JUDGMENTS]." (Rev. 18:4) I DID NOT MISQUOTE SCRIPTURE

Fourth, I am very much afraid of people who speak of the so-called Rhema of God. All too often it is nothing more than a way to elevate one's "FEELINGS" to a level with God's WRITTEN WORD. This is the excuse that so many of today's leaders such as Bennie Hinn, C. Peter Wagner, etc. have elevated their "FEELINGS" above the WRITTEN WORD OF GOD. That is just a fact.

God bless you,

Your FRIEND,

Steve

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"D" responded to me by copying my email and making her own point at the end of each point I had made. [My portion is in green; her portion is in dark brown.]

First of all, there was no intention to slam you personally — that is why your name was omitted. Thank you.

Secondly, I have written over and over again that we are in an 'IN-BETWEEN" TIME" — and that there is time for people to PREPARE to leave. Eventually, that time will run out, but it has not yet. So that is what I believe also, if in fact, I am to leave, & I am grateful for any time of preparation.

Third, I quoted Revelation 18:4 correctly!! The verse reads: "... Come out of her [meaning Babylon], my people, that ye be not partakers of her SINS, and that ye receive not of her PLAGUES [meaning JUDGMENTS]." (Rev. 18:4) I DID NOT MISQUOTE SCRIPTURE. That was my mistake & I am sorry about that.

Fourth, I am very much afraid of people who speak of the so-called Rhema of God. All too often it is nothing more than a way to elevate one's "FEELINGS" to a level with God's WRITTEN WORD. This is the excuse that so many of today's leaders such as Bennie Hinn, C. Peter Wagner, etc. have elevated their "FEELINGS" above the WRITTEN WORD OF GOD. That is just a fact. All those leaders & thousands upon thousands more belong in agarbage bag, ready to be dropped into the sea!!! Once again, this issue of feelings is not mine. I am NOT for feelings, & certainly NOT whenthey are NOT in agreement w/ God's Word. God gave us our spirit man to be in touch w/ so that we wouldn't have to go by our feelings. God help all of us! Of course, the written word by His Spirit is first. And what you shared in this email is essentially what I wrote about in my first email.I will continue to seek the Lord for HIS TIMING & HIS direction in all things! God bless you,

"D"

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I wrote back:

Dear "D:"

You are a wonderful and very brave person!!

May God continue to lead and bless.

Your FRIEND,

Steve

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Finally, one last thing. I would be remiss in not pointing out the fact that in the article which lies at the heart of this exchange — I speak here of "A Renewed Effort to Emigrate out of Babylon" — I placed a NOTE which said the following:

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IMPORTANT NOTE

The fact that we all should ultimately plan for emigration out of the US should in no way detract us from forming "house-churches" while we remain - and using those "house-churches" not only as sanctuaries against the evil of the day, but also as bases our from which we can preach the Gospel of the Kingdom.

Believe me when I say, if we truly give ourselves to preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom in these "Last Days" we will not have to worry about making the difficult choice to emigrate — THE DECISION WILL BE MADE FOR US BY OUR ENEMIES. WE WILL BE OSTRACIZED NOT ONLY FROM THE CHURCH, BUT FROM THE COUNTRY AS WELL — EXPELLED AS TRAITORS TO THE FAITH AND THE NATION. [We URGE you to acquaint yourself with what we mean here by studying our articles, "The Good News of the Coming Kingdom" and "The American New World Order System Must Give Way to the Kingdom of Heaven."]

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This NOTE appeared at the very beginning of the article and was meant to encourage Antipas readers to begin the serious effort of forming house-churches — what Leonardo Boff referred to as 'Basic Church Communities' [Comunidades Eclesiaia de Base (CEBs) — Christian communities which have rejected a Christianity that allies itself with the rich.

Gustavo Gutierrez said it best when he wrote:

"We must take the church to the poor. We must bypass the rich. We must construct at the local level a multiplicity of small communities of the faithful. Through these communities the faithful poor can minister to their own needs without having to rely on the vicissitudes of the rich. These communities must be more than what we today understand as the 'church'. They must be 'communities' in the meaning of Acts 2:44 ('And all that believed were together, and had all things common'). These communities must minister to the needs of the whole man: body and soul." [Please see our recent article, "The Kingdom of God Is at Hand — Part 1: Building the Commune of God."]

I tell you the truth: If you do these things — i.e., build basic church communities out from which you faithfully preach the Gospel of the Kingdom — a way will be ultimately opened up for you to obey the COMMAND in Revelation 18:4.

God bless you all!

S.R. Shearer
Antipas Ministries

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